From: | Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@ucl.ac.uk> |
To: | Andrew.Dickinson@CliffordChance.com |
CC: | robert.stevens@ucl.ac.uk |
jneyers@uwo.ca | |
a.m.tettenborn@exeter.ac.uk | |
obligations@uwo.ca | |
Date: | 28/05/2009 19:46:32 UTC |
Subject: | RE: [Fwd: Re: Stephens v Anglian Water Authority] |
Serious answer.
(i) I have always thought that the doctrine of 'abuse of rights' is
mislabelled. It really concerns abuse of liberties. If you have a liberty
with respect to me to do X, I have no right with respect to you that you
refrain from doing X. If you violate a right, that is a wrong, and
actionable without the need for any further principle.
(ii) I don't agree with either Andrew T or (on one reading) Janet that
Bradford v Pickles concerned an "immunity". Bradford had no property right
in relation to the percolating water. Without a right to the unimpeded
flow of water, the loss they suffered was damnum absque injuria. If they
had had a property right such as an easement they would have won. But they
didn't. There was no prima facie wrong, so there was no immunity from
liability for having commited one.
(iii) Just as we do not have absolute liberties in relation to how we
drive our cars, it is difficult to see why we should have absolute
liberties to divert a water flow on our land. If the plaintiff can stand
upon another right in order to bring a claim, the absence of a right to
the flow of the percolating water is irrelevant. Taking an obvious
example, if the blocking of the flow foreseeably physically injures the
plaintiff, there seems to be no reason why liability should not be
imposed.
We do not, of course, have general rights good against others that they
confer benefits upon us. Andrew T's examples of throwing away the medicine
that you need and I have, or negligently failing to give someone a job are
of this kind. Stephens v Anglian Water Authority was not like this
however. By diverting the water the defendant damaged the plaintiff's
house. If I own an asset I have a right good against all others who can
reasonably foresee that their conduct may damage it that they take care
not to do so. This was not a case of someone failing to confer a benefit.
Now, one of the ways the law does impose positive duties on people to
confer benefits on others is the duty of one landowner to take positive
steps to provide support to his neighbour's land. i don't think Stephens v
Anglian was a case like this.
Reading it again, the CA seem to have confused the different senses in
which we use 'rights' and to have conflated damnum and injuria (the latter
happens all the time). If it were the case that whenever someone else
intentionally caused me loss I could sue, then Bradford v Pickles would
involve an "immunity" and it would then have to be determined whether that
immunity covered all of the ways in which loss can be inflicted. That
isn't the law, nor should it be.
(iv) It might be thought objectionable that the defendant's liberty to
divert the water as he so chose was lost by the plaintiff's building a
house. This is however commonplace in law. In driving my car down the
Iffley Road in Oxford I owe no duty of care to someone living in Venezuela
as they are not within the class of persons who could possibly be injured.
If, however, they move to East Oxford and cross the road when I am
driving, I owe them a duty which I would not otherwise be under.
(v) I dissent from Andrew's characterisation of rights in the common law
as somehow absolute. Freedom for the pike is death for the minnow, and we
are all both pikes and minnows. Just as it is impossible to imagine a
world where our liberties were absolute, rights too have boundaries. The
most obvious example of the compromise the law makes in the drawing the
line between your liberty and my right is the duty that you *take care*
not to injure me. That duty is not absolute, nor indeed could it be
without abandoning the idea of a duty with a correlative right altogether.
RS
[Disclaimer: Written on a bus on the M40 with a child wailing next to me,
and so may make even less sense than usual.]
> But you can cook hot dogs in it. Andrew
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Stevens [mailto:robert.stevens@ucl.ac.uk]
>> Sent: 28 May 2009 18:24
>> To: Jason Neyers
>> Cc: Andrew Tettenborn; obligations@uwo.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Stephens v Anglian Water Authority]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > But why a right to support from brine but not from water?
>>
>> Because you cannot drink brine.
>> RS
>>
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